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Getting Acquainted with Internet Newsgroups

Module NA21h

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Contents

       
  • Newgroups
  • Net Etiquette
  • Selecting a Forum
  • Selecting a Thread
  • Contributing to a Discussion
  • Submitting Your Work
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    Newsgroups 

    If you are not sure what an Internet "newsgroup" is, see module NA20c before doing this module.  It explains the conceptual aspects of newsgroups. 


    Net Etiquette

    There is always room for proper etiquette on the Internet.  Saying something the wrong way can get you into a lot of hot water.  "Flame wars" often get started because someone doesn't think.  This applies to email lists as well as newsgroups.  Please look over this advice before posting. 
     
    Don't Spam Spamming means to send out unsolicited mail or postings to lots of people (usually advertising of some sort or chain letters).
    Read the FAQs Many newsgroups maintain a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list for newcomers. Many people have the same problems and want to ask the same questions.  If you don't bother to read the FAQs and ask a question off it, you are liable to be ridiculed.  Do yourself a favor and read it first, if you are planning to ask a question.
    Don't Quote Too 
    Much
    When replying to someone's post, only quote the relevant part to which you are replying.  Don't quote the entire message.
    Think Before 
    Replying
    It is important not to respond to a message with an emotional outburst.  Cool down first, and think carefully about your reply, if it has really pushed your buttons.  This message may be read all over the world, you want to come out looking good.
    Please Don't Shout We have a convention: typing in ALL CAPS for emphasis is considered "shouting", and can be reacted to the same as if you were shouting at someone in the same room.  Using asterisks for *emphasis* is the way to go.
    Smile if You Must Smileys are text characters that are typed together to make faces.  Too much use is annoying, so be discrete ;) .
    The only other advice that I can give is to "lurk" for awhile before getting on.  Lurking is read the posts on the list for a while without answering any, until you get a feel for what makes a good or bad post.  When you are ready, "delurk" - come out of hiding and post a message. 

    Other advice can be found in the Surfing Lessons of Wadsworth's Virtual Society. 

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    Selecting a Forum 

    The first step is to go to groups.google.com with your browser. You can do it by simply clicking the link in the previous sentence.  (Hyperlinks make web navigation easy. :-)

     

    Google Groups logo

    Google provides a lot of background information and help for using this system. Take a look at http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/help.html

    At the main Groups page , you should see a list of newsgroup master categories (see screen shot at righ)..

    Let's pick comp. as our category and click on it.

    This gets us to the first comp(uters) page, where the list of subcategories begins. (At the present time, there are 96 subcategories listed on two pages.)

    The listing includes:

    • Activity indicator where the amount of green indicates how often answers are posted.
    • Group, linking either to a list of subcategories, or directly to the threads.
    • (Number of subgroups, in parenthesis.)

    Let's take a look in comp.internet and see what it offers...

    There are only two subgroups here, comp.internet.library (with low activity) and comp.internet.net-happenings (with high activity):

    But there are also threads that are part of the general comp.internet group: in fact, there were about 1,260 at the time this is being written.

    So you now need to choose whether to go into one of the two subgroups, or investigate the threads at this level. For now, let's explore a thread.These may well be different when you reach this spot - Usenet is still expanding, though not nearly as fast as the World Wide Web. 

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    Selecting a Thread 

    I've chosen a thread called, "Codes for Countries". When I click I see a screen looking like this:

    Here's the layout of the window:

    • On the left, the context information:
      • Subject;
      • Newsgroup we're currently in;
      • Navigation and window control;
      • Thread structure and navigation: This area allows you to jump to any message in the thread, and also shows which message is being responded to. Be default, Google jumps to the last message in the thread, which is why that one is bold and red in the illustration.
    • On the right, the messages. These are displayed much like email, but notice the Newsgroups listing under the Subject line: a thread can be accessed from more than one newsgroup in this setup.
    • At the bottom (not shown here) is a link for people to "Post a follow-up to this message."

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    Contributing to a Discussion 

    If you follow the net etiquette tips at the beginning of this module, don't ask any questions already answered on their FAQ page, and don't deliberately try to provoke anyone, you should now be ready to join in a newsgroup discussion. 

    For this assignment, post at least one contribution to a discussion. Email your instructor with:

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    Submitting Your Work 

    To show your instructor what you have done, and to get credit for this assignment, please email the following information to your instructor:


    Audience: This is for people who have learned about Internet newsgroups (module NA20h), know how to use a Web browser (module NG20h),  and want to get acquainted with newsgroups first-hand.
    Objectives: When you successfully complete this lesson, you will be able to...

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    About this document...
    Module NA21h: This document is part of a modular instruction series in Computer Information Systems. For more information, see the overview or the list of modules in this series, NA: Internet Applications. This document has been used in the following classes:

    Author: Thomas Barber
    Editor: Laurence J. Krieg

    Institution: Department of Computer Information Systems and Internet Professional Department, Washtenaw Community College

    History: Original: 8 Feb 2000; This revision posted  Monday, 31-Aug-2009 11:47:59 EDT

    Copyright © 2000, Washtenaw Community College.
    Instructors: You may point to this file in your Web-based materials.
    Students: you may make a copy for your personal use.

    All other uses: contact the copyright holder or Laurence J. Krieg for permission.
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